DC Indaba: Trust, technology and the future of defined contribution

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Yesterday’s mallowstreet DC Indaba brought together trustees, providers, consultants and asset managers for a day of thoughtful discussion about the future of defined contribution pensions in the UK. Before anything else, a sincere thank you to everyone who joined us. The energy in the room, the openness of the discussions and the willingness to challenge ideas made it one of the most engaging Indabas we’ve hosted.

To give something back to our delegates, we used SOFI, the AI meeting analysis tool we built, to capture the themes and insights from across the day. SOFI helps summarise discussions, track questions and ensure the key messages from each session are not lost. What follows is a summary of the discussions based on SOFI’s analysis, following the order of the agenda.


The Trust in Trustee: From Decumulation to Digital – Putting Members First

Elizabeth Hartree, Trustee Director, The Law Debenture Group

Elizabeth opened the DC Indaba with a keynote focused on the evolving role of trustees in an increasingly complex pensions landscape. Her presentation explored the intersection between artificial intelligence, pension adequacy, member communications and trust, particularly as defined contribution schemes reach maturity.

A central theme was the complexity members face as they approach retirement. While the accumulation phase of DC saving has been carefully designed and largely successful, the decumulation phase remains far less structured, leaving individuals to make critical financial decisions with limited guidance.

Elizabeth highlighted the growing reality that many members are increasingly turning to AI tools and social media for information about retirement planning and investment decisions. This raises important questions about the role of trustees as trusted guides. While AI could offer powerful new tools for engagement and personalised insights, there is also a risk that misinformation or overly simplistic guidance could undermine trust in traditional scheme communications.

The session also explored the pension adequacy gap, particularly for women, and the challenge of communicating difficult messages about retirement outcomes without damaging confidence in pensions altogether. Looking ahead, Elizabeth suggested that guided retirement pathways and innovative defaults — including flexible annuities or collective defined contribution (CDC) structures — could help better align retirement solutions with member needs. At the same time, she cautioned against overly rigid solutions that assume a single model will suit all members.

Throughout the keynote, AI emerged as both an opportunity and a challenge. Used well, it could enable far more personalised communication — potentially even a “pension plan of one”, but trustees will need to ensure that new technologies enhance trust rather than erode it.


Panel: The Future of the Master Trust



Chaired by Dawid Konotey-Ahulu, the panel explored how Master Trusts are evolving as the market matures and consolidation continues.

The discussion reflected on how the focus of the market has shifted over the past decade. While scale and asset growth once dominated the conversation, the emphasis today is increasingly on investment sophistication, operational resilience and delivering better outcomes for members.

Private markets were a key topic. Panellists agreed that the question is no longer simply whether DC schemes should invest in private markets, but how those investments are implemented and governed effectively.

Artificial intelligence also featured heavily in the discussion. Examples ranged from drafting responses to member complaints to improving operational efficiency and supporting more personalised member journeys. While there was clear optimism about the opportunities AI presents, the panel emphasised the importance of maintaining multiple engagement channels for members who are less comfortable with digital tools.

The panel also explored the continuing debate around value for money. Participants highlighted the difficulty of measuring and communicating genuine member outcomes, particularly when innovation or operational improvements are not always reflected in regulatory frameworks.

Overall, the discussion suggested that the future of Master Trusts will require a careful balance between technological innovation, regulatory expectations and a continued focus on member outcomes.


Panel: Future of the Single Trust



The second panel examined the future of single-trust defined-contribution schemes and whether consolidation into master trusts is inevitable.

There was broad agreement that governance expectations, regulatory scrutiny and cost pressures are pushing many smaller schemes towards consolidation. However, the panel also emphasised that large single trusts can continue to play an important role within the pensions landscape.

One of the key advantages highlighted was the ability for employers within single trust structures to maintain a closer and more direct relationship with members. This can allow for more tailored communications and potentially stronger engagement than the more standardised approaches often seen within large master trusts.

At the same time, scale continues to matter. Access to private markets, regulatory compliance and operational resilience all tend to favour larger schemes. The forthcoming value for money framework was also discussed, with some concern that it may not always capture the nuances between different scheme structures or sufficiently reward innovation.

The panel concluded that the market is likely to see fewer, but larger, single trust schemes over time, with many smaller schemes consolidating into master trusts or alternative structures.

Investment Masterclasses

Across the day, delegates also participated in a series of investment masterclass sessions, providing practical perspectives on how DC portfolios are evolving as schemes mature.

Sessions included:


These sessions explored retirement income design, innovation within DC investment strategies, the role of real estate within diversified portfolios and the challenge of accessing private markets within liquid structures.


DC vs CDC: What’s Next for Scheme Design?

Paul Waters, Hymans Robertson

The day concluded with a closing keynote from Paul Waters, who explored the ongoing debate between traditional defined contribution structures and emerging collective defined contribution (CDC) approaches.

The session examined the trade-offs between annuities, drawdown and CDC models, highlighting the different balances between income certainty, flexibility and potential returns. While annuities offer security, they often come with lower income levels. CDC schemes, by contrast, have the potential to deliver higher average incomes through risk pooling, although this comes with the possibility of income volatility over time.

Paul shared modelling suggesting that CDC structures could provide higher retirement incomes and ensure members do not run out of money, but communicating the risks and potential adjustments clearly will be critical if these models are to succeed.

The discussion also touched on employer appetite, the regulatory developments still shaping the CDC framework and the broader consolidation taking place across the pensions market. As schemes continue to grow in scale, the industry may see significant changes in how pensions are designed, governed and delivered.

Across the day, several themes continued to surface: trust, communication, technology and scale. The defined contribution system is evolving quickly, but the discussions at DC Indaba reinforced that thoughtful governance, meaningful engagement and a continued focus on member outcomes remain central to its future.

Thank you again to everyone who joined us and contributed to such an open and thoughtful day of discussion.

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